(Lecture given by master Sheng-yen at Case Western Reserve University on 10/25/92, edited by Linda Peer and Harry Miller.) Today I am here to talk about Ch'an. Perhaps some of you have heard the sayings, "Ch'an is not established on words and language" and "Ch'an is a transmission outside conventional teachings." If Ch'an does not rely on words, why would anyone want to listen to a Ch'an talk? Isn't that a contradiction? Although Ch'an is not established on words, it has, among the many sects of Buddhism in China, left behind the most writing.more